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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2008, 03:57:35 »
Sto mu gromova... !!!
Stvarno postoji "backmasking" u uvodnom delu !?!?
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2008, 16:31:18 »
a sta je backmasking? :/

meni se u ovoj pesmi sve nekako jako dobro uklapa, od onih ''zvona'' (valjda su zvona) na pocetku i onog deckica-soprancica, pa do refrena get away run away - to je jedan od najmocnijih delova - i ono kad Tuomas ''umre'' i kad krene onaj melanholican deo (neka deseta minuta pesme...)... mada, ja bih posle onih ''otkucaja srca'', licno, dala orkestru i/ili horu jos par taktova, ili mozda i vise od par taktova, neke sablasne muzike i efekata, cisto da potvrdi tu atmosferu ''umrlog Tuomasa''...eto...to mi nekako najvise fali u pesmi...

izem ti profesionalnu deformaciju kad moram na svaki detalj da obratim paznju :banghead: :banghead: nekad je toliko nezahvalno biti naslusan klasike i biti polu-obrazovan muzicar...



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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2008, 15:35:29 »
"Backmask" ili "Backmasking" je u stvari tehnika snimanja u kojoj je tekst ubachen tako da ga mozesh chuti i razaznati samo slushajuci pesmu unazad.
Mnogi muzichari i bendovi su koristili ovu tehniku a medju najpoznatijima su The Beatles i Led Zeppelin. Inache u uvodnom delu pesme
"The Poet and the Pendulum" nije rech o pravom klasichnom "backmasking-u" .  ;)
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2008, 22:13:25 »
ewo procitah sta se dobije kada slusas jedan deo unazad...

"being raped again again and...
I know I will die alone,
long enough to see,
you'll live long enough
to hear the sound of guns...
Now I only have three minutes
and counting...
death I always longed for..."
there can be miracles, when you believe...
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2008, 22:22:00 »
Nije mi jasno.

Ja sam taj deo primetio na prvom slusanju. Samo sam morao malo da pojacam.

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2008, 22:30:42 »
pa procitala sam da su to subliminal messages u toj pesmi ;)
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2008, 22:37:20 »
Vidis, nikad nisam obracao paznju da to procitam unazad.  :roll:

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2008, 00:42:25 »
ewo procitah sta se dobije kada slusas jedan deo unazad...

"being raped again again and...
I know I will die alone,
long enough to see,
you'll live long enough
to hear the sound of guns...
Now I only have three minutes
and counting...
death I always longed for..."

a zar to nisu stihovi koje Aneta izgovara tamo pred kraj pesme? :/
ako nisu, gde se to moze uopste cuti (kad se slusa unazad)?



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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2008, 10:15:39 »
Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2008, 20:37:08 »
I ja mislim da su to stihovi iz " Part 3: The Pacific " dela...
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2008, 08:51:43 »
@Sirius - ja imam dial-up :/ a iskreno, nesto mi nije do preslusavanja Poet-a ovih dana ...



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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2008, 15:43:53 »
to je deo na kraju, mislim nije kraj nego neki tamo deo pesme koji se peva, s timshto je na pocetku, zarad upotpunjavanja neke slike koju je on zamislio to odradio... txt uopshte nije nov (taj "kontra" txt)...
Enyhow, duzina pesme ubija u pojam, i tvrdim na nemoze prici GLS NI NA KOJI NACIN... (ako se hvatate za orkestar=> OK, lepo je sve to, samo malo vishe previshe ga ima u pesmi... i nije to to... ubija... shtrchi... bode ushi...)
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2008, 21:54:03 »
da, upravo tako - sav taj orkestar i zvuk samo odaje utisak jedne velike praznine....

sta je hteo pesnik da kaze?

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2008, 23:11:02 »
da je ON povredjen time shto je shutnuo Tarju? ili da umire zato shto su mu planovi propali? misli m da je to samo jedna....izmishljotina.... kad cje chovek da shvati da to nije Tarja i da Aneta NEMOZE i NEUME, i da to jednostavno vishe nije to....?
Ako mu je zelja od pochetka bila da napravi bend kakav je sad, onda mi je veoma drago shto je Tarja bila samo gost...

Samo orkestar je ovoj pesmi dovoljan...
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2008, 23:21:27 »
sta je hteo pesnik da kaze?

Vjerovatno opet da je on usamljena dusha koju niko ne razumije? :lol:
Da, Tuomas je nekada pisao jako lijepe tekstove. -.-

Pjesma u sushtini nije losha, ali se vidi da je pokushao da napravi novi GLS... Nedostaje originalnosti i iskrenosti, i u muzici i u tekstu... Mislila sam da cje se Anettin djechiji glasicj lijepo uklopiti u sve to, ali je i to poshlo naopako. Orkestarske dionice su lijepe, dijelovi koje Anette pjeva su potpuni promashaj (ponavljam, ne smatram je loshom pjevachicom).
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2008, 19:19:54 »
Dechiji glasic je od deteta...nekog klinca..nije to pevala Anette...

Meni ova pema uopshte ne lichi na GLS...niti sam i u jednom trenutku pomislio da je kopija...
Onda ispada da je GLS kopija BOTB po toj logici..a to nije tachno..

U GLS orkestar je mnogo pazhlivije i baroknije odradjen..ovde preovladavaju gudachi,mnogo mrachnija atmsofera,dosta prelaza bez isuvishe upechatljivog orkestra(znachi bez duvacha,udaraljki..vec mlak zvuk gudacha),ne vazhi za sve delove naravno...
GLS se ne odvaja od orkestra..koji je mnogo puniji i zvuchniji u pesmi...
Textovi nemaju veze sa vezom..a sam text Poeta je fenomenlan..chak jedini koji me je ubedario na 10 vekova dok sam ga chitao i  slushao pesmu istovremeno...

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2008, 22:38:04 »
Dechiji glasic je od deteta...nekog klinca..nije to pevala Anette...

Ahem, nisam to rekla (a ni mislila), nego Anette ima njezhnu, gotovo djechiju boju glasa. :roll:


Enivej, mnogo sam ochekivala od ove pjesme... Mozhda me je zato toliko i razocharala.

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2008, 16:08:14 »
Marko, a zasto ti uvek mislis da svi Tuomasovi tekstovi moraju da budu vezani za ovo sve sto se tice Anete? jeste da je i to sve uticalo na tekstove i muziku, ali nije to majku mu jedina tema koja bi mogla da se provlaci kroz pesme...

meni se cini da Tuomas pise o onome sto oseca u sebi - normalno, i da je ovaj album, kao i ova pesma koja je meni najupecatljivija na albumu samo nastavak price sa Once-a i CC-a pre njega...



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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2008, 20:03:02 »
Marko, a zasto ti uvek mislis da svi Tuomasovi tekstovi moraju da budu vezani za ovo sve sto se tice Anete? jeste da je i to sve uticalo na tekstove i muziku, ali nije to majku mu jedina tema koja bi mogla da se provlaci kroz pesme...

meni se cini da Tuomas pise o onome sto oseca u sebi - normalno, i da je ovaj album, kao i ova pesma koja je meni najupecatljivija na albumu samo nastavak price sa Once-a i CC-a pre njega...
za Once i CC da, ali postavlja se pitanje da li na ovu pesmu nije uticao njihov razlaz... Pretpostavimo da nije. U tom sluchaju, objasni mi ondaK neke delove txta, kao npr. sa pochetka "The End" pa ondaK cela pesma, pa "The Beginning"...samim tim je bacio svetlo na "End of an Era" (ne DVD)  dragog nam Nw-a... ne kazem ja da sve pesme imaju veze sa dogadjajem, ali da bar pola ima>ima...
No, to je druga tema...
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2008, 14:52:30 »
Ovo mi je omiljena pesma sa albuma, ali nisam mogla da verujem kad sam procitala deo:

"Today, in the year of our Lord, 2005
Tuomas was called from the cares of the world
He stopped crying at the end of each beautiful day.
The music he wrote had too long been without silence.
He was found naked and dead,
With a smile in his face, a pen and 1000 pages of erased text."

I dalje mi se svidja, but it's too much... Zar je morao da spomene svoje ime, damn?


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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2008, 00:43:35 »
"Today, in the year of our Lord, 2005
Tuomas was called from the cares of the world
He stopped crying at the end of each beautiful day.
The music he wrote had too long been without silence.
He was found naked and dead,
With a smile in his face, a pen and 1000 pages of erased text."


ako mene pitate, ovo je blago retardirano :roll:


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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2008, 03:53:08 »
Josh jedan dokaz da nisu samo muzichki propali.:/ Valjda je chovek izbacio sve dobro iz sebe u prethodnih 10 godina i sad samo govna izbacuje.^,^
Лешина се преко клисуре стровалила, нека сад у смрти пронађе свог господа !!! \м/

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2008, 20:49:02 »
Ma, napisao je on i prije DPP nekoliko poprilichno proseravajucjih tekstova... xD

Mada, ovaj je stvarno kretenski.
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2008, 04:00:03 »
A voli Tuomas da lupeta :)

Demo verzija je kudikamo zanimljivija, pošto nema Anetice nego je Marko morao malo da pusti raspon ^_^ i tekst nije skroz isti, ima neke vulgarnosti tamo na kraju Pacifika :O
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2008, 10:49:44 »
kako da dodjemo do tih vuglarnosti?? :D :D :mrgreen:

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2008, 07:38:37 »
Hmhm...pa to je valjda na nekom japanskom el tako nekom izdanju prvo pušteno, a ima i na BBB singlu, evo sad gledam...

Pretpostavljam da postavljanje tak'ih linkova nije legitimno (correct me if I'm wrong :D), al evo stiže na pm ;)
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2008, 18:13:27 »
e pa fala :D poslusah, malo mi je manje odurna no pre, ali ipak, ne bih to mogla da slusam :/

a da postavish i tekst? treptrep?

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2008, 21:44:13 »
Eve...nisam siguran da je sto posto tačan, neko skidao na sluh, ja korigovao ono što sam upecao da je bilo netačno :)



”WHITE LANDS OF EMPATHICA”

The end...

The songwriter's dead.
The blade fell upon him
Taking him to the white lands
Of Empathica...Of Innocence
Empathica...Innocence

”HOME”

The dreamer and the wine
Poet without a rhyme
A widowed writer torn apart by chains of hell

One last perfect verse
Is still the same old song
Oh Christ how I hate what I have become

Take me home

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world
Forgive me
I have but two faces
One for the world
One for God
Save me
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world

My home was there 'n then
Those meadows of heaven
Adventure-filled days
One with every smiling face

Please, no more words
Thoughts from a severed head
No more praise
Tell me once my heart goes right

Take me home

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world
Forgive me
I have but two faces
One for the world
One for God
Save me
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world


”THE PACIFIC”

Sparkle my scenery
With turquoise waterfall
With beauty underneath
The Ever Free

Tuck me in beneath the blue
Beneath the pain, beneath the rain
Goodnight kiss for a child in time
Swaying blade my lullaby

Sparkle my scenery
Under the same pale moon
Whose guiding light chose you
Chose you all

”Would you like to rape my rotting carcass?
Dissect my heart.
And desecrate my rest
It would make you cum, wouldn't it?

You live long enough to hear the sound of guns,
long enough to find yourself screaming every night,
long enough to see your friends betray you.

For eleven years I’ve been strapped unto this altar.
Now I only have 3 minutes and counting.
I just wish the tide would catch me first and give me a death I always longed for...”


”DARK PASSION PLAY”

2nd robber to the right of Christ
Cut in half - infanticide
The world will rejoice today
As the crows feast on the rotting poet

Everyone must bury their own
No pack to bury the heart of a wolf
Now he's home in hell, serves him well
Slain by the bell, tolling for his farewell

The morning dawned, upon his altar
Remains of the dark passion play
Performed by his friends without shame
Spitting on his grave as they came

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world
Forgive me
I have but two faces
One for the world
One for God
Save me
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world

"Today, in the year of our Lord 2007,
Tuomas was called from the cares of this world.
He stopped crying at the end of each beautiful day.
The music he wrote had too long been without silence.

He was found naked and dead,
With a smile in his face, a pen and 1000 pages of erased text."


”MOTHER & FATHER”

Be still, my son
You are home
Oh when did you become so cold?
The blade will keep on descending
All you need is to feel my love

Search for beauty, find your shore
Try to save them all, bleed no more
You have such oceans within
In the end
I will always love you

The beginning...
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2008, 21:51:20 »
zaboga :roll:

pa on je malo utripovao da je morrison? :roll:

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #59 on: May 25, 2008, 06:44:41 »
Nisam siguran, al 1000 strana izbrisanih pesama mi uvek izmame smešak :)

Enivej, nije loša pesma skroz, možda je mogla biti malo koherentnija, al aj sad...zaraza ono get away run away fly away :)
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