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Nightwish => Muzika i tekstovi => Topic started by: Elizabeth on October 02, 2007, 12:38:09

Title: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on October 02, 2007, 12:38:09
josh jedna epohalna velika pesma u trajanju od 13 i kusur minuta,....

The Poet And The Pendulum

The end
The songwriter?s dead
The blade fell upon him
Taking him to the white land of empathica, of innocence
The poet ??? meadows of heaven

The dreamer and the wine
Poet without a rhyme
A widow writer, torn apart by chains of Hell
One last perfect verse
Yet still the same old song
Oh Christ, how I hate what I have become
Take me home

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray, to dreamer?s hideaway
I cannot cry ?cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world
Forgive me, I have but two faces
One for the world,
One for God, save me
I cannot cry ?cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world

My home was there at last, these meadows of heaven
The venture filled days more with every smiling face
Please, no more words
Those from a seventh hell
No more, please, tell me once my heart goes by
Take me home

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray, to dreamer?s hideaway
I cannot cry ?cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world
Forgive me, I have but two faces
One for the world,
One for God, save me
I cannot cry ?cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world
Whore for this cold world
Whore for this cold world

Sparkle, a scenery
With childish lies, I fall
With beauty underneath
The end, I?m free
Tuck me in
Beneath the blue
Beneath the great
Beneath the ray
One night reigns a journey in time
See them, the light

On the shore he sat and hoped
Under the same belief
Blue sky, the light chose you
Shows you hope

I?m afraid, so afraid, of being raped
Again and again and again
I know I will die alone, but loved
You live long enough to hear the sounds of chaos
Long enough to find yourself screaming
And if you want
Live long enough to see your friends betray you
Years have I been stripped unto this altar
Now I only have three minutes left to live
I just wish the tide would catch me first
And give me a death
As I hoped for

??? Drum the ride up, Christ
Join in Hell and fantasize
The whole world would it take to ???
??? run away
Everyone must bury their own
The victim buried their heart under stone
???
???

The morning dawn upon this altar
Remains of the dark passion play
Performed by his friends without shame
Screaming on his curse, they came

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray, to dreamer?s hideaway
I cannot cry ?cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world
Forgive me, I have but two faces
One for the world,
One for God, save me
I cannot cry ?cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world
the whore for this cold world
the whore for this cold world

Today, in the year of our Lord, 2005
Tuomas was called from the cares of the world
To stop crying at the end of this beautiful day
The music he wrote, at the long pain, about silence
He was found, walking, dead, with a smile on his face
And one thousand pages of erased text

Save me

They?ve stilled my sun, your life
Oh, when did you become so cold?
The blade will keep on descending
All you need is to feel my love
Search for beauty, find your shore
Try to save them all, bleed no more
You have such oceans within
In the end, I will always love you
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: White Hunter on October 02, 2007, 14:45:39
Najbolja pesma razume se...
Jedna od naboljih koju su uradili...dosta mi se svidja text...
Nevidjeno dobra kombinacija sa orkestrom...
Stvarno strava pesma...
Atmosferichna,jeziva...za razliku od Ghost Love Score..koja je chini mi se vishe epic i mistichnija...
Ova je zheshca,sa vishe prelaza..jezhio sam se 500 puta kada sam je prvi put chuo..onako u tishini i mraku...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on October 02, 2007, 16:52:54
znachiii ja nisam verovala kad sam je chula, isto drzim da je najbolja na albumu...
neverovatna je...mada bih ja onaj deo kak se zove....getaway runaway flyaway malo kasnije uvela, pre toga bih napravila neki prelaz ka tom delu,...mozda jedna od ''mana te pesme''
i josh neshto,onaj deo kad pochinje mother and father to mi je tako nekako odjednom presecheno...shta znam,,,i to bi moglo da se nekako razvija josh malo...
ova definitivno ima vishe mana od ghost love (jbg, pristrasna sam) ali sve u svemu, pesma jebe keve.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on October 04, 2007, 18:06:50
poet and the pendulum - pochetak, sa anettinim dechijim glasom je mozda neshto najbolje i najmistichnije u pesmi...deo koji sledi, sa getaway, runaway flyaway je po meni najjachi nekako, mada mi se njen glas tu nikako ne uklapa, zamishljam tu neshto masnije...
''get away, run away, fly away
lead me astray to the dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die the whore for the whole world...''
izuzetno jaka pesma...tuomasov klasichni stil...deo sa violonchelom,...ali tu bi tarjin glas bio fenomenalan..
kasnije posle tog violonchela dolazi deo u kome anette se josh nekako i uklapa...sa tankim glasicjem...ima neke mistike...ali onaj deo ''on the shore'' bi definitivno vishe lezao tarji.
marco se ovde izvrsno uklopio...ok je taj deo koji duze traje, ta distanca izmedju ta dva refrena getaway....i to sve...tipichan tuomas...epichno, genijalno...hor i orkestar...

e sad...krecje depresija...od onog dela mother and father...tu se uvek ubedachim, ima neshto tako tuzno i nedorecheno tu.. :( ne mogu to da objasnim, pogotovo ovaj deo je najlepshi
Search for beauty, find your shore
Try to save them all, bleed no more
You have such oceans within
In the end
I will always love you :cry: mislim da sam se vecj nekako postala emotivno vezana za ovaj deo...
tako...nekako....

:|
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: White Hunter on October 04, 2007, 19:54:01
Ne peva Anette taj deo..vec dechachic jedan... :)

Svejdeno..pesma je masterpiece... :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on October 04, 2007, 20:36:55
definitivno najbolja na albumu...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on October 04, 2007, 23:18:56
Quote from: White Hunter on October 04, 2007, 19:54:01
Ne peva Anette taj deo..vec dechachic jedan... :)


eeeee a zato to meni zvuchi tako fenomenalno...ovo bi definitivno bolje zvuchalo s tarjom :cry:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Lomelinven on October 05, 2007, 02:47:42
ubicjete me ... znam.... ali ja ovde ne vidim nista posebno... sve je na vrhuncu...nekako..ali kad sam je slusala, provukla se nekako neprimetno, cula sma predivne harmonije, dechiji sopranchicj i aneta je briljirala....ali....od sveg tog zvuka...prezasicjeno :/
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Imrahil on October 05, 2007, 10:44:53
Osecam da su hteli da kopiraju GLS, ne znam... Nije losa, ali nesto fali...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: White Hunter on October 05, 2007, 17:05:20
Tako sam i ja mislio na pochetku...ali sad sam vishe svario pesmu chini mi se...
Josh sam je slushao sinoc prvi put prateci text...Nevidjeno..stvarno me je dirnula...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on October 06, 2007, 08:15:33
mene je dirnula na prvo slushanje...jednostavno....ne znam da li je to samo moj trip, ali ima tako neke tuge ogromne i potishtenosti u njoj...kao da je ta pesma najbolja za pracjenje tuomasovih emocija koje je prezivljavao za ovih par godina...ne znam...ali nekad jednostavno moram da prekinem s slushanjem jer me previshe ubedachi :/
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Rinoa on October 23, 2007, 17:04:16
Jeste li vidjeli ovo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN2N2O9YRJk

za one s dial-upom - na pocetku pjesme, ono kad dijete sapce... to je dio iz The Pacific, samo sto se unatrag vrti.
freaky, uopce mi nije palo na pamet...  :shock:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on October 23, 2007, 22:02:10
auuuuuu :shock: :shock: znaci ni na kraj pameti mi nije bilo :shock: :shock:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: White Hunter on October 23, 2007, 22:20:20
Haha..bash super....
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on October 23, 2007, 23:26:41
jao, a ono kad sapcce  dete jel se to podrazumeva i onaj deo theeeeee end, the songwriter's dead, the blade fell upon him i sta dalje vec ide? samo sto je drugaciji tekst? ja jos nisam skontala taj deo :shock: mislim, pacific :shock: zju :shock:

ali dobra je ideja :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: White Hunter on October 24, 2007, 22:33:01
Ne..nego ono shaputanje pre tog...kad se pusti unazad je pochetni deo Pacifika... :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: NiKooLaa on October 27, 2007, 22:58:25
hmmm meni se owa pesma poono swidja....najjachi deo kako kazhete i wi getaway....
Owa pesma se ustwari sastoji od pet delowa koji su spojeni u jednu pesmu...
Ja cu stawiti rechi i izwinjawam se ako sam prekrshio prawila....

Nightwish - The Poet and the Pendulum

I - White Lands Of Empathica

The end. The songwriter's dead. The blade fell upon him.
Taking him to the white land of empathica of innocence
(...)

The dreamer and the wine
Poet without a rhyme.
A widow writer, torn apart by chains of Hell
One last perfect verse,
But still the same old song
Oh Christ, how I hate what I have become
Take me home

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray, to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more,
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world
Forgive me, I have but two faces,
One for the world,
One for God, save me,
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more,
I cannot die, I, the whore for the cold world

My home was there at last, these meadows of heaven
The venture filled days more with every smilling face
Please no more words
Those from the seventh hell
No more please tell me once my heart goes by
Take me home

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray, to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more,
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world
Forgive me, I have but two faces,
One for the world,
One for God, save me,
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more,
I cannot die, I, the whore for the cold world

II – Hope

Sparkle, a scenery
With childlike I fall
With beauty underneath
The end, I’m free
Tuck me in,
Beneath the blue
Beneath the great
Beneath the ray
One night reigns a dawn in time
See them, the light

On the shore he sat and hoped
Under the same belief
Blue sky is like shows you
Shows you more

III - The Pacific

"I'm afraid, so afraid Of being raped again and again and again
I know I will die alone, but loved
You live long enough to hear the sounds of calls
Long enough to find yourself screaming
And if you want live long enough to see your friends betray you
Years stripped under the altar
I just wish the tide would catch me first
And give me death
As I've always hoped for"

IV- Dark passion play

(Marco's solo part)

The morning dawn upon this altar
The race of the dark passion play
Performed by his friends without shame
Screaming on his innocence they came

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray, to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more,
I cannot die, I, the whore for this cold world
Forgive me, I have but two faces,
One for the world,
One for God, save me,
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more,
I cannot die, I, the whore for the cold world

Today, in the year of our Lord, 2005
Tuomas was called from the cares of the world,
He stopped calling at the end of each peaceful day
the music he wrote, at the long pain, about silence
He was found, walking, dead with a smile in his face
And one thousand people were raised to the test

Save me

V- Mother & Father

They steal my son, your own
Oh when did you become so cold?
The blade will keep on descending
All you need is to feel my love
Search for beauty, find your shore,
Try to save the love, bleed no more,
You have such oceans within
In the end I will always love you.



btw pojam nisam imao za owu skriwenu poruku,sad odgledah tek onaj snimak... =)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Sirius on October 28, 2007, 11:20:30
hm, sto se tice texta, mislim da je pocetak mother & father : be still my son, you're home....
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: NiKooLaa on October 29, 2007, 09:42:28
rechi sam skinuo sa nekog sajta...ne werujem da su pogreshili...imaju milione textowa...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Rinoa on October 29, 2007, 13:31:43
pa onda valjda na official sajtu krivo pise..? :lol:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Sirius on October 29, 2007, 15:35:53
poslusaj pa sam prosudi, logicnije je....
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on October 29, 2007, 17:53:38
ju pa ja nisam ni videla ovo...znate kako, ja sam na darklyricsu skidala neke njihove tekstove, i za bbb recimo uopste nema nekih delova, znci ni oni ne znaju...

mislim da je na oficijalnom sajtu najpouzdanije pogledati, trebalo bi da je to ipak ozbiljan sajt...

jos uvek stojim pri tome da je ovo najbolja pesma sa albuma :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: NiKooLaa on October 29, 2007, 19:04:02
oke, ae pobedili ste... xD
I meni se swidja owa pesma... :D
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on October 29, 2007, 21:46:54
najbolja na albumu...a sto se tice reci,oficijalni sajt je ipak najpouzdaniji ;)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: igorpan on November 28, 2007, 13:21:13
Najbolja pesma, nema sta.......
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Bojan-Metal on February 16, 2008, 11:11:09
jako dobro ispricana prica u 4 dijela, najvise me pogodio kraj, kad on govori o svojoj smrti i kasnije njegovi roditelji, najvise je utiska ostavila recenica ''And one thousand pages of erased text'' jer sve govori.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on February 16, 2008, 13:18:58
jedna od retkih sa dpp-a koja mi se svidela...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on February 16, 2008, 18:22:50
najvise mi se svidja poslednji deo, onako melanholican, kad krene da peva Anette ''search for beauty, find your shore...'' :cry:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Sirius on February 17, 2008, 21:32:59
ne znam,mene ceo text ubije....
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: nem0 on February 17, 2008, 22:15:29
puno mi se svidja, ali ipak tvrdim da bi tarja bolje otpevala...:'c
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: 10th Man on February 18, 2008, 03:57:35
Sto mu gromova... !!!
Stvarno postoji "backmasking" u uvodnom delu !?!?
Odlichna i jezivo sablasna.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on February 18, 2008, 16:31:18
a sta je backmasking? :/

meni se u ovoj pesmi sve nekako jako dobro uklapa, od onih ''zvona'' (valjda su zvona) na pocetku i onog deckica-soprancica, pa do refrena get away run away - to je jedan od najmocnijih delova - i ono kad Tuomas ''umre'' i kad krene onaj melanholican deo (neka deseta minuta pesme...)... mada, ja bih posle onih ''otkucaja srca'', licno, dala orkestru i/ili horu jos par taktova, ili mozda i vise od par taktova, neke sablasne muzike i efekata, cisto da potvrdi tu atmosferu ''umrlog Tuomasa''...eto...to mi nekako najvise fali u pesmi...

izem ti profesionalnu deformaciju kad moram na svaki detalj da obratim paznju :banghead: :banghead: nekad je toliko nezahvalno biti naslusan klasike i biti polu-obrazovan muzicar...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: 10th Man on February 19, 2008, 15:35:29
"Backmask" ili "Backmasking" je u stvari tehnika snimanja u kojoj je tekst ubachen tako da ga mozesh chuti i razaznati samo slushajuci pesmu unazad.
Mnogi muzichari i bendovi su koristili ovu tehniku a medju najpoznatijima su The Beatles i Led Zeppelin. Inache u uvodnom delu pesme
"The Poet and the Pendulum" nije rech o pravom klasichnom "backmasking-u" .  ;)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on February 21, 2008, 22:13:25
ewo procitah sta se dobije kada slusas jedan deo unazad...

"being raped again again and...
I know I will die alone,
long enough to see,
you'll live long enough
to hear the sound of guns...
Now I only have three minutes
and counting...
death I always longed for..."
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Islander on February 21, 2008, 22:22:00
Nije mi jasno.

Ja sam taj deo primetio na prvom slusanju. Samo sam morao malo da pojacam.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on February 21, 2008, 22:30:42
pa procitala sam da su to subliminal messages u toj pesmi ;)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Islander on February 21, 2008, 22:37:20
Vidis, nikad nisam obracao paznju da to procitam unazad.  :roll:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on February 24, 2008, 00:42:25
Quote from: Angel Of Light on February 21, 2008, 22:13:25
ewo procitah sta se dobije kada slusas jedan deo unazad...

"being raped again again and...
I know I will die alone,
long enough to see,
you'll live long enough
to hear the sound of guns...
Now I only have three minutes
and counting...
death I always longed for..."

a zar to nisu stihovi koje Aneta izgovara tamo pred kraj pesme? :/
ako nisu, gde se to moze uopste cuti (kad se slusa unazad)?
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Sirius on February 24, 2008, 10:15:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN2N2O9YRJk
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: 10th Man on February 26, 2008, 20:37:08
I ja mislim da su to stihovi iz " Part 3: The Pacific " dela...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on March 12, 2008, 08:51:43
@Sirius - ja imam dial-up :/ a iskreno, nesto mi nije do preslusavanja Poet-a ovih dana ...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Winter's Son on March 13, 2008, 15:43:53
to je deo na kraju, mislim nije kraj nego neki tamo deo pesme koji se peva, s timshto je na pocetku, zarad upotpunjavanja neke slike koju je on zamislio to odradio... txt uopshte nije nov (taj "kontra" txt)...
Enyhow, duzina pesme ubija u pojam, i tvrdim na nemoze prici GLS NI NA KOJI NACIN... (ako se hvatate za orkestar=> OK, lepo je sve to, samo malo vishe previshe ga ima u pesmi... i nije to to... ubija... shtrchi... bode ushi...)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Lomelinven on March 13, 2008, 21:54:03
da, upravo tako - sav taj orkestar i zvuk samo odaje utisak jedne velike praznine....

sta je hteo pesnik da kaze?
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Winter's Son on March 13, 2008, 23:11:02
da je ON povredjen time shto je shutnuo Tarju? ili da umire zato shto su mu planovi propali? misli m da je to samo jedna....izmishljotina.... kad cje chovek da shvati da to nije Tarja i da Aneta NEMOZE i NEUME, i da to jednostavno vishe nije to....?
Ako mu je zelja od pochetka bila da napravi bend kakav je sad, onda mi je veoma drago shto je Tarja bila samo gost...

Samo orkestar je ovoj pesmi dovoljan...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: skurk on March 13, 2008, 23:21:27
Quote from: Lomelinven on March 13, 2008, 21:54:03
sta je hteo pesnik da kaze?

Vjerovatno opet da je on usamljena dusha koju niko ne razumije? :lol:
Da, Tuomas je nekada pisao jako lijepe tekstove. -.-

Pjesma u sushtini nije losha, ali se vidi da je pokushao da napravi novi GLS... Nedostaje originalnosti i iskrenosti, i u muzici i u tekstu... Mislila sam da cje se Anettin djechiji glasicj lijepo uklopiti u sve to, ali je i to poshlo naopako. Orkestarske dionice su lijepe, dijelovi koje Anette pjeva su potpuni promashaj (ponavljam, ne smatram je loshom pjevachicom).
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: White Hunter on March 14, 2008, 19:19:54
Dechiji glasic je od deteta...nekog klinca..nije to pevala Anette...

Meni ova pema uopshte ne lichi na GLS...niti sam i u jednom trenutku pomislio da je kopija...
Onda ispada da je GLS kopija BOTB po toj logici..a to nije tachno..

U GLS orkestar je mnogo pazhlivije i baroknije odradjen..ovde preovladavaju gudachi,mnogo mrachnija atmsofera,dosta prelaza bez isuvishe upechatljivog orkestra(znachi bez duvacha,udaraljki..vec mlak zvuk gudacha),ne vazhi za sve delove naravno...
GLS se ne odvaja od orkestra..koji je mnogo puniji i zvuchniji u pesmi...
Textovi nemaju veze sa vezom..a sam text Poeta je fenomenlan..chak jedini koji me je ubedario na 10 vekova dok sam ga chitao i  slushao pesmu istovremeno...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: skurk on March 14, 2008, 22:38:04
Quote from: White Hunter on March 14, 2008, 19:19:54
Dechiji glasic je od deteta...nekog klinca..nije to pevala Anette...

Ahem, nisam to rekla (a ni mislila), nego Anette ima njezhnu, gotovo djechiju boju glasa. :roll:


Enivej, mnogo sam ochekivala od ove pjesme... Mozhda me je zato toliko i razocharala.

EDIT: Boju, jbt, ne bojI... :banghead:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on March 29, 2008, 16:08:14
Marko, a zasto ti uvek mislis da svi Tuomasovi tekstovi moraju da budu vezani za ovo sve sto se tice Anete? jeste da je i to sve uticalo na tekstove i muziku, ali nije to majku mu jedina tema koja bi mogla da se provlaci kroz pesme...

meni se cini da Tuomas pise o onome sto oseca u sebi - normalno, i da je ovaj album, kao i ova pesma koja je meni najupecatljivija na albumu samo nastavak price sa Once-a i CC-a pre njega...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Winter's Son on April 15, 2008, 20:03:02
Quote from: Elizabeth on March 29, 2008, 16:08:14
Marko, a zasto ti uvek mislis da svi Tuomasovi tekstovi moraju da budu vezani za ovo sve sto se tice Anete? jeste da je i to sve uticalo na tekstove i muziku, ali nije to majku mu jedina tema koja bi mogla da se provlaci kroz pesme...

meni se cini da Tuomas pise o onome sto oseca u sebi - normalno, i da je ovaj album, kao i ova pesma koja je meni najupecatljivija na albumu samo nastavak price sa Once-a i CC-a pre njega...
za Once i CC da, ali postavlja se pitanje da li na ovu pesmu nije uticao njihov razlaz... Pretpostavimo da nije. U tom sluchaju, objasni mi ondaK neke delove txta, kao npr. sa pochetka "The End" pa ondaK cela pesma, pa "The Beginning"...samim tim je bacio svetlo na "End of an Era" (ne DVD)  dragog nam Nw-a... ne kazem ja da sve pesme imaju veze sa dogadjajem, ali da bar pola ima>ima...
No, to je druga tema...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: +Leona+ on May 05, 2008, 14:52:30
Ovo mi je omiljena pesma sa albuma, ali nisam mogla da verujem kad sam procitala deo:

"Today, in the year of our Lord, 2005
Tuomas was called from the cares of the world
He stopped crying at the end of each beautiful day.
The music he wrote had too long been without silence.
He was found naked and dead,
With a smile in his face, a pen and 1000 pages of erased text."

I dalje mi se svidja, but it's too much... Zar je morao da spomene svoje ime, damn?
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Lomelinven on May 06, 2008, 00:43:35
"Today, in the year of our Lord, 2005
Tuomas was called from the cares of the world
He stopped crying at the end of each beautiful day.
The music he wrote had too long been without silence.
He was found naked and dead,
With a smile in his face, a pen and 1000 pages of erased text."


ako mene pitate, ovo je blago retardirano :roll:

Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Luka on May 06, 2008, 03:53:08
Josh jedan dokaz da nisu samo muzichki propali.:/ Valjda je chovek izbacio sve dobro iz sebe u prethodnih 10 godina i sad samo govna izbacuje.^,^
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: skurk on May 06, 2008, 20:49:02
Ma, napisao je on i prije DPP nekoliko poprilichno proseravajucjih tekstova... xD

Mada, ovaj je stvarno kretenski.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Coa Smor on May 23, 2008, 04:00:03
A voli Tuomas da lupeta :)

Demo verzija je kudikamo zanimljivija, pošto nema Anetice nego je Marko morao malo da pusti raspon ^_^ i tekst nije skroz isti, ima neke vulgarnosti tamo na kraju Pacifika :O
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Lomelinven on May 23, 2008, 10:49:44
kako da dodjemo do tih vuglarnosti?? :D :D :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Coa Smor on May 24, 2008, 07:38:37
Hmhm...pa to je valjda na nekom japanskom el tako nekom izdanju prvo pušteno, a ima i na BBB singlu, evo sad gledam...

Pretpostavljam da postavljanje tak'ih linkova nije legitimno (correct me if I'm wrong :D), al evo stiže na pm ;)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Lomelinven on May 24, 2008, 18:13:27
e pa fala :D poslusah, malo mi je manje odurna no pre, ali ipak, ne bih to mogla da slusam :/

a da postavish i tekst? treptrep?
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Coa Smor on May 24, 2008, 21:44:13
Eve...nisam siguran da je sto posto tačan, neko skidao na sluh, ja korigovao ono što sam upecao da je bilo netačno :)



”WHITE LANDS OF EMPATHICA”

The end...

The songwriter's dead.
The blade fell upon him
Taking him to the white lands
Of Empathica...Of Innocence
Empathica...Innocence

”HOME”

The dreamer and the wine
Poet without a rhyme
A widowed writer torn apart by chains of hell

One last perfect verse
Is still the same old song
Oh Christ how I hate what I have become

Take me home

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world
Forgive me
I have but two faces
One for the world
One for God
Save me
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world

My home was there 'n then
Those meadows of heaven
Adventure-filled days
One with every smiling face

Please, no more words
Thoughts from a severed head
No more praise
Tell me once my heart goes right

Take me home

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world
Forgive me
I have but two faces
One for the world
One for God
Save me
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world

”THE PACIFIC”

Sparkle my scenery
With turquoise waterfall
With beauty underneath
The Ever Free

Tuck me in beneath the blue
Beneath the pain, beneath the rain
Goodnight kiss for a child in time
Swaying blade my lullaby

Sparkle my scenery
Under the same pale moon
Whose guiding light chose you
Chose you all

”Would you like to rape my rotting carcass?
Dissect my heart.
And desecrate my rest
It would make you cum, wouldn't it?

You live long enough to hear the sound of guns,
long enough to find yourself screaming every night,
long enough to see your friends betray you.

For eleven years I’ve been strapped unto this altar.
Now I only have 3 minutes and counting.
I just wish the tide would catch me first and give me a death I always longed for...”

”DARK PASSION PLAY”

2nd robber to the right of Christ
Cut in half - infanticide
The world will rejoice today
As the crows feast on the rotting poet

Everyone must bury their own
No pack to bury the heart of a wolf
Now he's home in hell, serves him well
Slain by the bell, tolling for his farewell

The morning dawned, upon his altar
Remains of the dark passion play
Performed by his friends without shame
Spitting on his grave as they came

Get away, run away, fly away
Lead me astray to dreamer's hideaway
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world
Forgive me
I have but two faces
One for the world
One for God
Save me
I cannot cry 'cause the shoulder cries more
I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world

"Today, in the year of our Lord 2007,
Tuomas was called from the cares of this world.
He stopped crying at the end of each beautiful day.
The music he wrote had too long been without silence.

He was found naked and dead,
With a smile in his face, a pen and 1000 pages of erased text."

”MOTHER & FATHER”

Be still, my son
You are home
Oh when did you become so cold?
The blade will keep on descending
All you need is to feel my love

Search for beauty, find your shore
Try to save them all, bleed no more
You have such oceans within
In the end
I will always love you

The beginning...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Lomelinven on May 24, 2008, 21:51:20
zaboga :roll:

pa on je malo utripovao da je morrison? :roll:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Coa Smor on May 25, 2008, 06:44:41
Nisam siguran, al 1000 strana izbrisanih pesama mi uvek izmame smešak :)

Enivej, nije loša pesma skroz, možda je mogla biti malo koherentnija, al aj sad...zaraza ono get away run away fly away :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on May 25, 2008, 14:13:57
i ja sam se nasmejala na tih 1000 strana :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on June 01, 2008, 22:07:38
shta je sad ovo koji kuwac?! :shock: ja nish ne kapiram :shock: :|
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: skurk on June 01, 2008, 22:19:48
Mislim da je u tome i poenta, da mi obichni smrtnici ne mozhemo da ukapiramo shta je ta uzvishena dusha htjela recji.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Faustus on June 08, 2008, 02:08:47
Ekipo, ipak je to umetnicki izraz tj. poezija. Mislim da se tu moramo sloziti - Tuomasovi (Nightwish) textovi su poezija.
Jednostavno, nije pogresno shvatiti bilo sta od toga na bilo koji nacin. Na sto vise nacina se nesto shvati, i sto vise emocija i razmisljanja nesto pokrene, to je ta stvar dublja i razradjenija, mozda se i usudjujem tvrditi.

Ovo je po meni doooosta jaka pesma, verovatno najupecatljivija na celom albumu. Jedini, ali jedini deo koji je po meni suvisan je u tekstu, i odnosi se na Tuomasovo pominjanje vlastitog imena. Nekako se cini jeftino, ali opet-moguca su razlicita tumacenja.

Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Lomelinven on June 08, 2008, 09:21:30
upravo na taj deo mi i mislimo....
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Faustus on June 08, 2008, 15:45:08
OK, onda se slazemo :)
CINI SE da nije trebao da pominje svoje ime.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Lomelinven on June 08, 2008, 15:50:55
pa zapravo, mnogo je gore srozati solidan ili dobar tekst i dobru ideju, nego napisati nesto sto je u svakom smislu potpuna budalashtina :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Crownless Phoenix on June 08, 2008, 16:45:06
procitah negde da je tuomas napisao ovu pesmu o svojim osecanjima tokom 2005...
menis se svidja refren :D
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on June 10, 2008, 23:17:53
Meni nije cudno to sto on pominje svoje ime. Mislim, zaboga, kao da i ranije nismo znali da u svojim tekstovima govori o sebi, duuuhh. :roll:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on June 12, 2008, 22:24:33
pomalo predugacka...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on June 12, 2008, 22:28:02
Hmmm... Meni je taman kako treba... Konceptualno, pored GLS je nekako najbolje odradjena, sve se nekako uklapa, atmosfere se slivaju, a opet govore jedna za drugu... Ne znam, meni se jako svidja, uprkos vokalu koji, cini mi se, ne uspeva da iznese jacinu emocija u njoj.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Angel Of Light on June 12, 2008, 22:32:37
pesma je definitivno ostavila najjaci utisak na albumu,ali u pocetku,dok sam je slusala imala sam utisak kao da je predugacka...sta znam...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Faustus on July 17, 2008, 19:56:01
Prosao je koncert... Ova je pesma ostavila ubedljivo najsnazniji utisak.
Prepustio sam se osecanju... razmislio... I ovo je za mene jedna od najjacih pesama NW-a uopste. Biser sa DPP-a.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Crownless Phoenix on July 17, 2008, 20:19:08
pa breej  mora da bude duga kad se sastoji iz pet (!!) delova...
13min...
piiiffff...
sta je to za Tuomasa :lol:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Faustus on July 17, 2008, 20:23:17
Da je kraca ne bi valjalo :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Crownless Phoenix on July 17, 2008, 20:24:46
svaki deo je prica za sebe...
a spojeni zajedno... :wub:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Ika on July 17, 2008, 20:25:02
Sad cjete da me zakoljete ali meni je owo najloshija pesma na albumu. :histerija:
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Crownless Phoenix on July 17, 2008, 20:28:17
necemo te koljemo.... svako ima pravo na misljenje... :lol:
(milane, sta kazes na razhanj? :lol: )
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Faustus on July 17, 2008, 20:58:49
Ma necemo mi da se mucimo oko raznja.  Ima ljudi sto to rade, Ajde s nama lepo u pecenjaru pa... :lol:
Salim se :) Sto kaze Milica - svakom svoje...
Ali ja licno bih voleo da cujem obrazlozenje. Ako zelis da mi kazes? ;)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Ika on July 17, 2008, 21:06:48
Hm...oki ali to je samo moje mishljenje.

1. Kao prwo - predugachka je. Ne wolim pesme duzhe od 7 min, retko koja mi se po defaultu swidi a da me ne smori.
2. 'Ajde shto je dugachka, a da je zanimljiwa. Ali nije.
Obrazlozhenje - text mi je izlizan - wishe sa tim of innocence, dreamer, poet without a rhyme, lead me astray, jbt ima li on neshto nowo da kazhe?
Sledecje, nije mi dinamichna. Dosadna je. Iako se smenjuju 'delowi', jako je...isprazna. Jednostawno smorim se dok je slusham, onaj silazni 'ton' da ga tako nazowem ili shta je wecj kod 'I, whore for the whole world' ( :lol:) mi totalno 'spusti' raspolozhenje (ako ga je prethodno uopshte bilo)...

Ume on mnooogo bolje, eto toliko ukratko. ;)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Luka on July 17, 2008, 21:30:31
Quote from: Ika on July 17, 2008, 21:06:48
Hm...oki ali to je samo moje mishljenje.

1. Kao prwo - predugachka je. Ne wolim pesme duzhe od 7 min, retko koja mi se po defaultu swidi a da me ne smori.
2. 'Ajde shto je dugachka, a da je zanimljiwa. Ali nije.
Obrazlozhenje - text mi je izlizan - wishe sa tim of innocence, dreamer, poet without a rhyme, lead me astray, jbt ima li on neshto nowo da kazhe?
Sledecje, nije mi dinamichna. Dosadna je. Iako se smenjuju 'delowi', jako je...isprazna. Jednostawno smorim se dok je slusham, onaj silazni 'ton' da ga tako nazowem ili shta je wecj kod 'I, whore for the whole world' ( :lol:) mi totalno 'spusti' raspolozhenje (ako ga je prethodno uopshte bilo)...

Ume on mnooogo bolje, eto toliko ukratko. ;)

Vidi se da si mi majka. XD Delimo mishljenje...mada, ja sam je preslushao mozhda 3 puta u zhivotu i to sam 2 puta naterao samog sebe. :/
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Ika on July 17, 2008, 21:32:27
xD

Ja sam se weruj mi terala 5 puta ali - prwi utisak sam samo potwrdila.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Luka on July 17, 2008, 21:37:42
Nekako mi se chini kao da je namerno zheleo da isposhtuje tradiciju od prethodna dva albuma sa kompozicijom duzhom od 10 min, pa mu nije uspelo. Jebem li ga...smara me posle 3 minuta, za razliku od Ghost Love Score i Beauty of the Beast, koje me ne smaraju ni u jednom jedinom trenutku. :/
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Ika on July 17, 2008, 21:44:32
Quote from: Horus on July 17, 2008, 21:37:42
Nekako mi se chini kao da je namerno zheleo da isposhtuje tradiciju od prethodna dva albuma sa kompozicijom duzhom od 10 min, pa mu nije uspelo. Jebem li ga...smara me posle 3 minuta, za razliku od Ghost Love Score i Beauty of the Beast, koje me ne smaraju ni u jednom jedinom trenutku. :/

Agree. Recimo, u Beauty of the Beast (koja mi je inache omiljena od njih) i u Ghost Love Score osecjam tezhinu, emocije, kompleksnost... Owde osecjam nabacanost, kao da je na silu uradjena, nekako mi je bez dushe.
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Faustus on July 17, 2008, 21:48:36
Zahvaljujem gospo, na hitrom i obuhvatnom odgovoru, i vama i vasem istomisljeniku sinu :)
Od svega, licno mogu da se slozim samo sa cinjenicnim stanjem - ponavljanje nekih tema u muzici i textovima NW-a. Medjutim, ne pozmatram to tako striktno negativno kao ti. Tema koja se ponavlja kroz to moze i da se razvija i menja. Cini mi se da Tuomas, iako cesto vrti istu pricu, daje nam je na razlicite nacine i u drugacijim okvirima. Ali eto...
U ostalom se ne slazemo nikako... sta ces? Takvi smo mi ljudi - razliciti :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Ika on July 17, 2008, 21:54:51
Pa to sam i ja rekla - swako ima swoje mishljenje i ukus :)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Luka on July 17, 2008, 21:57:25
De gustibus non est disputandum.^^

Jebem li ga. Mozhda mi se jednog dana svidi.

A mozhda ne?

XD
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Faustus on July 17, 2008, 22:01:03
Da da, pesma je u svakom slucaju dobra.......................................................................... Osim ako nije :histerija:
'Till that day comes... ;)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on July 17, 2008, 22:52:45
Hmm.. Ja jedino ovu pesmu mogu da slusam sa DPP-a...Meni je nekako savrsena, mada mislim da je GLS ipak bolja... I nekako, ovo zamisljam kako bi bilo da je Tarja peva, koliko bi samo energije i emocija dobila...

Ali, sa druge strane, mozda je upravo suprotan efekat trebao da se postigne Anetinim krhkim glasom, da da neku drugaciju notu i emociju.. Ne znam, nisam pametna... Odusevila sam se kad sam je cula na Exitu (i odusevila sam se sto nisam cula Anetu xD ), iako je bilo stoprocentno da ce je svirati... 
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Faustus on July 17, 2008, 22:56:28
Savrsena (skoro) je prava rec. Hvala :D
Ja sam mislio da nije stoprocentno da ce je svirati, pa sam se odusevio jos vise... Cuo sam Anette i nije mi smetalo ;)
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Illusionist on July 19, 2008, 01:40:03
Nja, nije losa, ali je dugackaaaaaa... Meni se svidja prvi deo pesme i ono krljanje sa violinama u sredini pesme... Najgori deo mi je kad Marko pocne da vristi... Njegovo vristanje mi je odvratno i upropasti celu pesmu... I ona deca smaraju!
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Elizabeth on July 21, 2008, 00:23:19
Sad mi je nesto palo na pamet!!!- da nije dete koje peva na pocetku Sam Hardwick, dete koje je pevalo i u Bless the Child i DBP??? Mada kontam da je sad malo odrastao, kako da kazem, i da je tesko da ima tako deciji glasic... ALi nekako bi se tako skroz poklopilo da je to on, jer bi onda sve imalo taj neki kontinuitet, ako shvatate sta hocu da kazem...

Ima li neko original DPP, da vidi ko je to dete,ako to pise?
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Nightwish_Maniac on August 14, 2008, 09:23:06
he Pit and the Pendulum" is a short story written by Edgar Allan Poe and first published in 1842. The story is about the torments endured by a prisoner of the Spanish Inquisition, though Poe skews historical facts. The narrator of the story is deemed guilty for an unnamed crime and put into a completely dark room. He passes out while trying to determine the size of the room. When he wakes up, he realizes there is a large, deep pit in the middle of the room. He loses consciousness again and awakens strapped on his back, unable to move more than his head. He soon realizes there is a large blade-like pendulum hanging above him, slowly getting closer to cutting through his chest. He finds a way to escape but the walls of his prison start to move and close in on him, pushing him closer and closer to falling into the pit.  MISLIM DA JE ODAVDE TUOMASU DOSLA IDEJA ZA IME :D
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Winter's Son on August 14, 2008, 17:24:28
Taj mali je prvo bio u Ded bojz pa ondak u Bles the chajld kao onaj koji pricha na pochetq u kraju, na once mislim da ga nema, a u DPP... mislim.... :roll: dva razlichita sveta njegov glas i ovog malog....
shto se tiche kontinuiteta, mislim da bi kontinuitet postojao da je i tarja tu...

a shto se tiche pesme...
prenatrpana je MUZICHKI kao i ceo album (osim LOtW), zajebao se u startu sa 354813541 muzichara + duplo njih gostuje... shta je hteo da postigne? Da vodi London Sesion Orchestra? No can do...
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: ~Nymphadora~ on July 24, 2010, 11:10:02
text je lep, jer je mračan :lol: , ali dosta me podseća na dena brauna xD
i markov deo je odličan. ali anetino vrištanje uništava pesmu -.-
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Anubis on November 03, 2010, 10:27:07
Najbolja pjesma na DPP play albumu definitivno..Meni jedna od 5 najboljih  od cijelog Nightwisha...

E sad...   Pjesma ko pjesma je  ono jedno od Mozda Najvecih uradaka Tuomasa,    toliko epicna..mracna ....toliko atmosfericnaa,  savrseno konstruirana, Kolko samo posla je bilo za takvu stvar xD... Ma savrseno....
Najezim se sav pri toj pjesmi-..savrseno....
Poesebice na djelu  "
I only wish the tide would catch me first and give me deadh i always longed for"
 podsjeca me na  Jedan dugi period mog zivota mracan   koji je sada srecom iza mene...I jao .   poslje toga  Marcov dio i savrseno ..EPIC

Ma ukomponirano je sve savrseno....   

Inace Ovu   Pjesmu je Tuomas  napisao inspiriran The  Pit and the pendulumom  od Edgar  Allan Poe-a, jooj kak volim tog pisca <3<3  U neku ruku je ovaj masterpiece nastao zbog njega  xDxD   

Inace bio jedan koncert na Koji se Anette rasplakala na Mother&Father djelu.  zbog wannabe seljacina u prvom redu i svakakvih stvari koje su joj dovikivali .....   Koji k....   Mislim oprostite ali ovo me asociralo pa moram....makar nije tema za to ali koji k.... imate blatit Anette  i dolazit na koncert ono da cujete to?..Mislim ako vam se ne slusa prestanite to slusat ne dodjete ono samo da unistite -_-   isto da je Tuomas htio replicu Tarje  uzeo bi neku njenu kopiju ne on je htio unikad  , htio je neki drukciji stil ...  To je dobio s Anette , kome se to ne svidja nek ne slusa i   tocka  ////  RANT

"Maybe life is just a dream within a dream"  -   The begining.....    Mozda Smrt je tek stvarni pocetak....  Ah joj.....Obozavam ovu stvar   <3<3<3.... 




Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: ~Nymphadora~ on November 03, 2010, 21:49:34
,,Inace Ovu   Pjesmu je Tuomas  napisao inspiriran The  Pit and the pendulumom  od Edgar  Allan Poe-a"
Jao čitala sam na wikiju :D
Btw ja nju ne podnosim ali ne bih mučila sebe da idem na NW koncert samo da bih nju pljuvala....Imam preča posla -_-
Title: Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
Post by: Anubis on November 04, 2010, 01:22:02
Znam no ima svakakvih  ljudi u svijetu.....