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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #60 on: May 25, 2008, 14:13:57 »
i ja sam se nasmejala na tih 1000 strana :)
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2008, 22:07:38 »
shta je sad ovo koji kuwac?! :shock: ja nish ne kapiram :shock: :|



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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2008, 22:19:48 »
Mislim da je u tome i poenta, da mi obichni smrtnici ne mozhemo da ukapiramo shta je ta uzvishena dusha htjela recji.
I CEASE TO EXIST
AS MY FORMER SELF
SYNTHETICALLY REVIVED.

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2008, 02:08:47 »
Ekipo, ipak je to umetnicki izraz tj. poezija. Mislim da se tu moramo sloziti - Tuomasovi (Nightwish) textovi su poezija.
Jednostavno, nije pogresno shvatiti bilo sta od toga na bilo koji nacin. Na sto vise nacina se nesto shvati, i sto vise emocija i razmisljanja nesto pokrene, to je ta stvar dublja i razradjenija, mozda se i usudjujem tvrditi.

Ovo je po meni doooosta jaka pesma, verovatno najupecatljivija na celom albumu. Jedini, ali jedini deo koji je po meni suvisan je u tekstu, i odnosi se na Tuomasovo pominjanje vlastitog imena. Nekako se cini jeftino, ali opet-moguca su razlicita tumacenja.

We're just a second in time
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Good and evil combined!

This is my church of choice,
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You can't buy peace of mind in a fuckin' store,
You could do with less but you all want more!

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2008, 09:21:30 »
upravo na taj deo mi i mislimo....

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2008, 15:45:08 »
OK, onda se slazemo :)
CINI SE da nije trebao da pominje svoje ime.
We're just a second in time
The last in the line
Of the prey that walks the Earth
Good and evil combined!

This is my church of choice,
Love's strength standeth in love's sacrifice!

You can't buy peace of mind in a fuckin' store,
You could do with less but you all want more!

NIJE SVAKO KO LUTA IZGUBLJEN

"Destiny is an excuse for those who don't have the strength to fulfil their wishes. Everything is possible. Even the impossible."
Tuomas Holopainen

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2008, 15:50:55 »
pa zapravo, mnogo je gore srozati solidan ili dobar tekst i dobru ideju, nego napisati nesto sto je u svakom smislu potpuna budalashtina :)

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2008, 16:45:06 »
procitah negde da je tuomas napisao ovu pesmu o svojim osecanjima tokom 2005...
menis se svidja refren :D
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2008, 23:17:53 »
Meni nije cudno to sto on pominje svoje ime. Mislim, zaboga, kao da i ranije nismo znali da u svojim tekstovima govori o sebi, duuuhh. :roll:



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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #69 on: June 12, 2008, 22:24:33 »
pomalo predugacka...
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #70 on: June 12, 2008, 22:28:02 »
Hmmm... Meni je taman kako treba... Konceptualno, pored GLS je nekako najbolje odradjena, sve se nekako uklapa, atmosfere se slivaju, a opet govore jedna za drugu... Ne znam, meni se jako svidja, uprkos vokalu koji, cini mi se, ne uspeva da iznese jacinu emocija u njoj.



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obraz okrenulo nije... ~

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #71 on: June 12, 2008, 22:32:37 »
pesma je definitivno ostavila najjaci utisak na albumu,ali u pocetku,dok sam je slusala imala sam utisak kao da je predugacka...sta znam...
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2008, 19:56:01 »
Prosao je koncert... Ova je pesma ostavila ubedljivo najsnazniji utisak.
Prepustio sam se osecanju... razmislio... I ovo je za mene jedna od najjacih pesama NW-a uopste. Biser sa DPP-a.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2008, 19:57:43 by Faustus »
We're just a second in time
The last in the line
Of the prey that walks the Earth
Good and evil combined!

This is my church of choice,
Love's strength standeth in love's sacrifice!

You can't buy peace of mind in a fuckin' store,
You could do with less but you all want more!

NIJE SVAKO KO LUTA IZGUBLJEN

"Destiny is an excuse for those who don't have the strength to fulfil their wishes. Everything is possible. Even the impossible."
Tuomas Holopainen

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2008, 20:19:08 »
pa breej  mora da bude duga kad se sastoji iz pet (!!) delova...
13min...
piiiffff...
sta je to za Tuomasa :lol:
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2008, 20:23:17 »
Da je kraca ne bi valjalo :)
We're just a second in time
The last in the line
Of the prey that walks the Earth
Good and evil combined!

This is my church of choice,
Love's strength standeth in love's sacrifice!

You can't buy peace of mind in a fuckin' store,
You could do with less but you all want more!

NIJE SVAKO KO LUTA IZGUBLJEN

"Destiny is an excuse for those who don't have the strength to fulfil their wishes. Everything is possible. Even the impossible."
Tuomas Holopainen

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #75 on: July 17, 2008, 20:24:46 »
svaki deo je prica za sebe...
a spojeni zajedno... :wub:
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I am singin’ for my pleasure
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #76 on: July 17, 2008, 20:25:02 »
Sad cjete da me zakoljete ali meni je owo najloshija pesma na albumu. :histerija:

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #77 on: July 17, 2008, 20:28:17 »
necemo te koljemo.... svako ima pravo na misljenje... :lol:
(milane, sta kazes na razhanj? :lol: )
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2008, 20:58:49 »
Ma necemo mi da se mucimo oko raznja.  Ima ljudi sto to rade, Ajde s nama lepo u pecenjaru pa... :lol:
Salim se :) Sto kaze Milica - svakom svoje...
Ali ja licno bih voleo da cujem obrazlozenje. Ako zelis da mi kazes? ;)
We're just a second in time
The last in the line
Of the prey that walks the Earth
Good and evil combined!

This is my church of choice,
Love's strength standeth in love's sacrifice!

You can't buy peace of mind in a fuckin' store,
You could do with less but you all want more!

NIJE SVAKO KO LUTA IZGUBLJEN

"Destiny is an excuse for those who don't have the strength to fulfil their wishes. Everything is possible. Even the impossible."
Tuomas Holopainen

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #79 on: July 17, 2008, 21:06:48 »
Hm...oki ali to je samo moje mishljenje.

1. Kao prwo - predugachka je. Ne wolim pesme duzhe od 7 min, retko koja mi se po defaultu swidi a da me ne smori.
2. 'Ajde shto je dugachka, a da je zanimljiwa. Ali nije.
Obrazlozhenje - text mi je izlizan - wishe sa tim of innocence, dreamer, poet without a rhyme, lead me astray, jbt ima li on neshto nowo da kazhe?
Sledecje, nije mi dinamichna. Dosadna je. Iako se smenjuju 'delowi', jako je...isprazna. Jednostawno smorim se dok je slusham, onaj silazni 'ton' da ga tako nazowem ili shta je wecj kod 'I, whore for the whole world' ( :lol:) mi totalno 'spusti' raspolozhenje (ako ga je prethodno uopshte bilo)...

Ume on mnooogo bolje, eto toliko ukratko. ;)

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #80 on: July 17, 2008, 21:30:31 »
Hm...oki ali to je samo moje mishljenje.

1. Kao prwo - predugachka je. Ne wolim pesme duzhe od 7 min, retko koja mi se po defaultu swidi a da me ne smori.
2. 'Ajde shto je dugachka, a da je zanimljiwa. Ali nije.
Obrazlozhenje - text mi je izlizan - wishe sa tim of innocence, dreamer, poet without a rhyme, lead me astray, jbt ima li on neshto nowo da kazhe?
Sledecje, nije mi dinamichna. Dosadna je. Iako se smenjuju 'delowi', jako je...isprazna. Jednostawno smorim se dok je slusham, onaj silazni 'ton' da ga tako nazowem ili shta je wecj kod 'I, whore for the whole world' ( :lol:) mi totalno 'spusti' raspolozhenje (ako ga je prethodno uopshte bilo)...

Ume on mnooogo bolje, eto toliko ukratko. ;)

Vidi se da si mi majka. XD Delimo mishljenje...mada, ja sam je preslushao mozhda 3 puta u zhivotu i to sam 2 puta naterao samog sebe. :/
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #81 on: July 17, 2008, 21:32:27 »
xD

Ja sam se weruj mi terala 5 puta ali - prwi utisak sam samo potwrdila.

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #82 on: July 17, 2008, 21:37:42 »
Nekako mi se chini kao da je namerno zheleo da isposhtuje tradiciju od prethodna dva albuma sa kompozicijom duzhom od 10 min, pa mu nije uspelo. Jebem li ga...smara me posle 3 minuta, za razliku od Ghost Love Score i Beauty of the Beast, koje me ne smaraju ni u jednom jedinom trenutku. :/
Лешина се преко клисуре стровалила, нека сад у смрти пронађе свог господа !!! \м/

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #83 on: July 17, 2008, 21:44:32 »
Nekako mi se chini kao da je namerno zheleo da isposhtuje tradiciju od prethodna dva albuma sa kompozicijom duzhom od 10 min, pa mu nije uspelo. Jebem li ga...smara me posle 3 minuta, za razliku od Ghost Love Score i Beauty of the Beast, koje me ne smaraju ni u jednom jedinom trenutku. :/

Agree. Recimo, u Beauty of the Beast (koja mi je inache omiljena od njih) i u Ghost Love Score osecjam tezhinu, emocije, kompleksnost... Owde osecjam nabacanost, kao da je na silu uradjena, nekako mi je bez dushe.

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #84 on: July 17, 2008, 21:48:36 »
Zahvaljujem gospo, na hitrom i obuhvatnom odgovoru, i vama i vasem istomisljeniku sinu :)
Od svega, licno mogu da se slozim samo sa cinjenicnim stanjem - ponavljanje nekih tema u muzici i textovima NW-a. Medjutim, ne pozmatram to tako striktno negativno kao ti. Tema koja se ponavlja kroz to moze i da se razvija i menja. Cini mi se da Tuomas, iako cesto vrti istu pricu, daje nam je na razlicite nacine i u drugacijim okvirima. Ali eto...
U ostalom se ne slazemo nikako... sta ces? Takvi smo mi ljudi - razliciti :)
We're just a second in time
The last in the line
Of the prey that walks the Earth
Good and evil combined!

This is my church of choice,
Love's strength standeth in love's sacrifice!

You can't buy peace of mind in a fuckin' store,
You could do with less but you all want more!

NIJE SVAKO KO LUTA IZGUBLJEN

"Destiny is an excuse for those who don't have the strength to fulfil their wishes. Everything is possible. Even the impossible."
Tuomas Holopainen

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #85 on: July 17, 2008, 21:54:51 »
Pa to sam i ja rekla - swako ima swoje mishljenje i ukus :)

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #86 on: July 17, 2008, 21:57:25 »
De gustibus non est disputandum.^^

Jebem li ga. Mozhda mi se jednog dana svidi.

A mozhda ne?

XD
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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #87 on: July 17, 2008, 22:01:03 »
Da da, pesma je u svakom slucaju dobra.......................................................................... Osim ako nije :histerija:
'Till that day comes... ;)
We're just a second in time
The last in the line
Of the prey that walks the Earth
Good and evil combined!

This is my church of choice,
Love's strength standeth in love's sacrifice!

You can't buy peace of mind in a fuckin' store,
You could do with less but you all want more!

NIJE SVAKO KO LUTA IZGUBLJEN

"Destiny is an excuse for those who don't have the strength to fulfil their wishes. Everything is possible. Even the impossible."
Tuomas Holopainen

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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #88 on: July 17, 2008, 22:52:45 »
Hmm.. Ja jedino ovu pesmu mogu da slusam sa DPP-a...Meni je nekako savrsena, mada mislim da je GLS ipak bolja... I nekako, ovo zamisljam kako bi bilo da je Tarja peva, koliko bi samo energije i emocija dobila...

Ali, sa druge strane, mozda je upravo suprotan efekat trebao da se postigne Anetinim krhkim glasom, da da neku drugaciju notu i emociju.. Ne znam, nisam pametna... Odusevila sam se kad sam je cula na Exitu (i odusevila sam se sto nisam cula Anetu xD ), iako je bilo stoprocentno da ce je svirati... 



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Re: The Poet and the Pendulum
« Reply #89 on: July 17, 2008, 22:56:28 »
Savrsena (skoro) je prava rec. Hvala :D
Ja sam mislio da nije stoprocentno da ce je svirati, pa sam se odusevio jos vise... Cuo sam Anette i nije mi smetalo ;)
We're just a second in time
The last in the line
Of the prey that walks the Earth
Good and evil combined!

This is my church of choice,
Love's strength standeth in love's sacrifice!

You can't buy peace of mind in a fuckin' store,
You could do with less but you all want more!

NIJE SVAKO KO LUTA IZGUBLJEN

"Destiny is an excuse for those who don't have the strength to fulfil their wishes. Everything is possible. Even the impossible."
Tuomas Holopainen